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Thank you for your reply Newb But according to my own first hand experience, it doesn't seem to be that high. It means if you can catch one PP within 30 hands, you win or at least get even depending on where in the process you catch that PP. So if you used to play things like Big Wheel or Gaming Machine, play PP instead, which will give you a much better edge. If you add the two HEs together, you're playing a game with a combined HE of c6. My strategy for playing Perfect Pairs 30 to 1 payout. With the high house edge on the side bet, and a neg EV on the main game, I think your losses will eventually outstrip your winnings - the maths suggest so, even though at present you may be up on the deal. I dont think he even got more than one coloured pair either. The reason is it is not very unusual to see many PP happen close to one another, and you are actually using the money you win with the initial PP to gain maximum profits, which can be really rewarding. I prefer the aggressive option, but you can make your own choice. If you like, you can use a very small amount of money to give it a test with the above mentioned strategy to see if it works. They are two totally separate things. In the long run, you are more likely to be a winner. Remember it is very likely for you to get other types of Pairs within this 30 hands range also, which means you win "Free Spins" for that Perfect moment does it sound like Jackpot with Gaming Machine? Within hands range with progression betting, it is very likely you catch at least one PP plus other pairs along the way to make you a possible winner. Members Current visitors New profile posts Search profile posts. New posts. There are simply too many possibilities, and compared to the very strict and accurate match of FIRST two cards, high-low card counting is way too rough and even irrelevant. What's new New posts New profile posts Latest activity. Therefore, I play PP only under this condition. I have yet another strategy which I will not try until I have big enough bankroll for consistent play. Log in. So if you chicken out with the first PP, the consequence could be that your win will not cover your possible losses in your future play. I have always viewed it as another form of roulette to be avoided. Good luck. The bets are indeed totally independent, but I was suggesting using the advantageous edge bet of one to offset the bet of the other returns wise. I've read through your post twice and, correct me if I'm mistaken, it looks as if you are applying a progression system of sorts. I know people would ask: what if you lose everything both rounds? Also, I do not agree with your theory of "increased edge in the main bet to offset the edge in the side bet". If they only pay 25 to 1 for PP, the house edge will be higher. Search titles only. I will be interested to see computer simulation on this betting strategy and also test my One Box theory Personally I don't think card counting works for PP. Charles Wells Member Oct 14, PP at crown Hi there Thank you newb99 for such a detailed analysis of this side bet. Also, with a greater chance of pulling a 20 or BJ, does that justify making a smaller side bet covered by the increased main bet made in line with the count? I doubt that card counting will ever work for PP bet. You bet on PP not because the edge in the main bet is high, but PP itself is worth playing if it is not, you never play it, unless you just want to try your luck. There is the dichotomy that the edge on the side bet reduces as more decks are in play, but then the frequency of seeing the count that justifies making the bet reduces as well. I've got my edge figures from the Wizard of Odds web site, and Mr Shackleton's calculations are noted to be pretty sound. However, I continue playing even I catch a PP. I have however spent quite a few hours on the , table in the private room to the right of the mahog room where there are two tables. Its interesting that the casino staff do not give any heat in this private room even to players going from bets to 10,{/INSERTKEYS}{/PARAGRAPH} On big gambling nights eg Derby day after midnight you will see real money thrown around esp on bacc but I digress. If your results are different, it's probably solely down to variance and a relatively small statistically speaking sample size. My estimation was he invested more than K on this side bet alone and got about 10K back. I think the answer is yes, although the count would have to be so high the frequency of seeing it would be minute. This is to apply the Martingale betting system to the PP play, which we will never use for normal BJ play. One PP means a 30 to 1 payout here in Queensland , which is a very good return and it is not uncommon that PP come into my hands several times within a short period. If you win, you win big. Get enough money ready to continue playing this way for at least 7 times consecutively on 7 separate days , and you will see the result if only 1 or 2 times, luck plays a major role. Compare this to three card poker where the combined HE is around c5. If you accept that progressions have a nil effect on the HE you should, they do , then you'll continue to play against a pretty hefty HE, less the continuous shuffling effect. Search Advanced search…. You could even bet max minus one and one unit on the PP when the count hit the threshold whatever it might be so the amount bet remained at 12 - but this would reduce the EV a tad. If you're playing PPs in a game serviced with a CSM, then there will be no high count as such, and so no increased edge in the main bet to offset the edge in the side bet. So the win rate on the higher count, with the higher bet, would go some way to covering the costs of the high edge on the side bet. How are we going to ensure cards will come out as pairs which precisely arrive at your box and they will be exactly the first two cards dealt to you? Even one night you lose everything, most of time you will win and cover all your losses of that night, plus profits. Also, it is better to play PP with CSMs, not shoe games, as the more cards are removed from the shoe, the lower chance you will catch a pair. So to sum it up: 1 Play PP when there is only one box. Of course, if you stop there, you guarantee that you win and lock in the profit. On a signal every player at the table could put out bets on the perfect pairs in addition to the usual betting ramp from counting. I assessed him as an novice level counter who bet very aggressively when the TC was high. You are going to catch at least one PP somewhere along the way plus other pairs. But like I said, use the progression betting once at a time to control the risk. If you win in the beginning of this second round, you win back everything you lose in the first round plus profits. I would like to see debate about this, but I will appreciate reasoning, not assertion. My goal is to win more times than lose in the long run, not to win every time. It's been discussed within the forum on occasions, although all of the APs here won't touch it due to it's high HE - around eleven times that of the main bet in a six deck shoe, and over twice that of the 37 notched wheel of fortune. The more decks in the machine, the more edge you have in playing PP. Although I haven't actually played this way, I kept recording what occurred to me for PP play when I was watching instead of playing it , which proves this theory works. Stick to it. If I catch a Perfect Pair within this range, I will: 1 either stop playing and pocket the money; 2 or continue playing, until I lose everything back, or reach my win or loss limit or time limit for my main BJ play, whichever is earlier. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. One of the theoretical questions has been, is there a point when counting cards that that the count will be so high, the probability of pulling a pair, matched coloured pair or perfect pair becomes such that the odds are in favour of making this side bet? Search forums. Thread starter garygo Start date Oct 10, According to my experience, the majority of time when I play BJ with CSMs, at lease one Perfect Pairs appears within hands , plus many other pairs coloured pairs and mixed pairs. If you win towards the end of this second round, you are still slightly better off than you stop at the first round. PP do appear often here in Queensland casinos and the payout is 30 to 1 I believe this is the highest available. If you are lucky enough to catch a couple of PP or even coloured pairs in the second round, you win big. If you lose, you lose what you have won, or in the worst case, you lose your original budget limited to 30 hands play - no more than that. What does this mean? I've said the reason in my main post more cards removed from the shoe, more HE. But remember, it is much easier to get PP than Jackpot, for the simple reason of much lower house edge. It is quite possible you win a Perfect Pairs or even more, or quite a few other Pairs to equal a Perfect Pairs, within your budget 30 hands play. If you were applying, say, a betting ramp, at a very high count you'd be betting 12 units rather than just 1 unit as it is prudent to do when playing a CSM flat betting. Retun Perfect pair I was quoting for 6 deck which is virtually the standard in the UK. {PARAGRAPH}{INSERTKEYS}Forums New posts Search forums. The continuous shuffling effect will, in theory, increase the possibilities of pairs popping out as cards are recycled though, and it would be interesting to see what a computer simulation throws up and if, and by how much, the edge on the side bet reduces. Perhaps the answer would be to develop a revised count, or have a team of players keeping the count on specifc card types. Perhaps you ought to consider applying your progression at the 3CP table? I reckon the reason is cards are not so much spread out when more than one box is opened, you need more luck for your box to get that PP. Log in Register. Either the count is high or low, it does not determine your cards will likely come out a pair, does it? A totally independent bet. This is strictly my personal first-hand experience after numerous BJ plays, but if anyone out there can prove this theory, it will be fascinating. I never make the bet myself, although it's fascinating how often people do seem to get paid on the and odds whenever I play for a couple of hours or so.